Several months ago, I was interviewed by the splendid Peter Bouteneff for Luminous, the Podcast of the Institute of Sacred Arts, principally on the topics of beauty and aesthetics, but also on Roland in Moonlight. Release of the interview was delayed by certain technical problems that bedeviled the recording, at my end of the conversation in particular; but it has now been released. If it sounds as if I am speaking through a metal tube, my apologies. I had been given a shiny new metal tube for my birthday, and I could not resist putting it to use. But ours was a very fruitful conversation even so, it seems to me.